tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post7160263861315219094..comments2024-01-28T03:56:39.351-08:00Comments on TOM CLARK: Ezra Pound: The gods have never left us / Rock's World (from Canto CXIII)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-16699192160809045902011-06-12T00:43:16.660-07:002011-06-12T00:43:16.660-07:00The American Book of the Dead version of the 39 1/...The American Book of the Dead version of the 39 1/2 foot funerary scroll is a printout of the hospital bill.<br /><br />(A careful scrutiny of the Rock translation of the Naxi pictograph reveals some hints as to Another Way...)TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915822857461178942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-14973962863988062812011-06-11T07:14:00.923-07:002011-06-11T07:14:00.923-07:00"we do what we can"
even if/when we hav..."we do what we can"<br /><br />even if/when we have the 'proper' legal authenticatedl documents/instructions in place<br /><br />The State & their "doctors-lawyers" do what they want to do..<br />plug (you) into machines and non-stop drugs to<br /><br />"prolong 'life' " ... and their income ! ...<br /><br />I mean at 94 and with VERY advanced Alzheimer's <br />why in the hell did they INSIST that for her last 5 days she was required to have Hospice which they charged Madiicare $8,500 and not a single Hospice person<br />showed up (or did anything .. the folks who had been taking care of her for her last 6 years (the last 3 @ $5,000 + per month)<br /><br />took care that she "peacefully" (as they said ... as is always said) 'passed' in her sleep..<br /><br />anyway ... it ain't easy...especially when a guilt trip is <br />(inevitably) laid on the "survivors") ... to get the last $$$$ out of the process...<br /><br />( I could tell you stories .... so, don't get me stared...<br /><br />(sorry to hear about your mother .. was the one who made all of the decisions re: my mother for the last 7-8 years of her life and for the last 4 years of her life she didn't even know who I was !<br /><br />we got some stupid-fucking system in this country .....Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-46538725782933532282011-06-11T06:56:53.214-07:002011-06-11T06:56:53.214-07:00"I think when time is short" (as indeed ..."I think when time is short" (as indeed it seems to be) we do what we can -- what else can we do? while we are still here, being living. . . .STEPHEN RATCLIFFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12339481653546188412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-48683779741425499962011-06-11T02:09:10.696-07:002011-06-11T02:09:10.696-07:00I think when time is short, as it seems to be thes...I think when time is short, as it seems to be these days, it's probably best to begin our long voyages in the thin air of the high heavens, where things are often so fiercely aerated as to take our breath away (those funerary scroll images made for many hours of increasingly horrified meditation), leaving, in place of oxygen, hopefully at least, forgetfulness. <br /><br />What other mercy can or could there be. <br /><br />Heavens and hells, in all ages and places and belief systems, always seem to come out so weirdly mixed, in any case.<br /><br /><br />so line which gives between<br />two points, now which<br /><br />is in motion, circumference<br />of light, in questionTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915822857461178942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-22096614787064932562011-06-10T06:18:33.492-07:002011-06-10T06:18:33.492-07:00Tom,,
Thanks for further notes on "Rock'...Tom,,<br /><br />Thanks for further notes on "Rock's world that he saved us for memory/ a thin trace in high air". . .<br /><br />6.10<br /><br />light coming into sky above black plane<br />of ridge, quails calling back and forth<br />in foreground, wave sounding in channel<br /><br /> so line which gives between<br /> two points, now which<br /><br /> is in motion, circumference<br /> of light, in question<br /><br />grey white clouds to the left of point,<br />circular green pine on tip of sandspitSTEPHEN RATCLIFFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12339481653546188412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-56496708230543580312011-06-09T21:47:05.795-07:002011-06-09T21:47:05.795-07:00Tom -
I've never braved the Cantos, so thanks...Tom -<br /><br />I've never braved the Cantos, so thanks for opening these high approaches. The Naxi, Li-Chiang, Rock, those mountains, all new and wonderful to me. Another real gift that I'll take my time to savour.<br /><br />BarryBarry Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02121653352771218338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-52619734858119097342011-06-09T08:05:47.114-07:002011-06-09T08:05:47.114-07:00The Na-Khi or Naxi people descend from a nomadic T...The Na-Khi or Naxi people descend from a nomadic Tibetan tribe that settled some centuries back in the Li-Chiang area. That was formerly a sort of Wild West or Mountain Outland Zone occupied by criminals on the run and exiles from more orderly districts of China. The geographical location explains the confluence of spiritual sources, including Chinese Taoism, Burmese Nat religion and Tibetan Buddhism. Rock described the religious practices of the Na-Khi or Naxi as a sort of marriage of animistic nature worship with the pre-Buddhist Bönist religion of Tibet. The forerunners of the Na-Khi seem to have been chased out of Tibet when the Mahayana Buddhists took over there. The fugitive status, described by Rock, may have caused EP to identify them with the Albigensians (see Cantos 101 and 110) as victims of religious oppression.<br /><br />And of course, given his prior interest in Ernest Fenollosa's studies of the ideogram, Pound certainly found Rock's work with the ancient pictographic language of these people very interesting.<br /><br />Rock related that the speech of the Naxi sounded at first impossibly indistinct to his Western ear: "it is only after long practice that one learns to distinguish their difficult sound complexes."<br /><br />See the opening of Canto CIV:<br /><br />Na Khi talk made out of wind noise,<br />And North Khi, not to be heard amid sounds of the forest<br />but to fit in with them unperceived by the game...<br /><br />Which in turn calls to mind: <a href="http://tomclarkblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/ezra-pound-paradise-lost-notes-for.html" rel="nofollow">"Let the wind speak / that is paradise"</a>.TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05915822857461178942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-23366928513727508682011-06-09T07:08:02.953-07:002011-06-09T07:08:02.953-07:00Tom,
Wow, very beautiful (EP's words and thes...Tom,<br /><br />Wow, very beautiful (EP's words and these pictures), and Joseph Rock! My grandfather was in China from 1913 to the early 50s (my mother grew up there), wrote an article for National Geographic on hairnet "industry" in China way back when. . . .<br /><br />6.9<br /><br />grey whiteness of fog against invisible<br />plane of ridge, quails calling in field <br />in foreground, wave sounding in channel<br /><br /> not by which word is spoken,<br /> being that however is<br /><br /> spelt out on the flat, this<br /> must have been, light <br /><br />grey white fog against invisible ridge,<br />shadowed green pine of tip of sandspitSTEPHEN RATCLIFFEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12339481653546188412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-10462784059235409372011-06-09T06:27:02.690-07:002011-06-09T06:27:02.690-07:00The Gods never left - the circulation of Pound Nax...The Gods never left - the circulation of Pound Naxi Rock Eye Ear. I never even knew the Gods had been around. Thanks, HiltonHiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04497545378045907642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4445844569294316288.post-60044387997135103032011-06-09T06:21:30.136-07:002011-06-09T06:21:30.136-07:00Hey man thanks for this really
a rather Huge Ev...Hey man thanks for this really<br /><br />a rather Huge Event - EP IS (for me) as/CANTOS CX-CXVll (and his Pisan Cantos 7et ceteras of his<br />changed my life<br />the entire CXlll that<br />this out of DRAFTS AND FRAGMENTS<br /><br />is in DRAFTS<br /> I also appreciate CANTO CXll<br /><br /><br />... I no need for footnotes necessary (ever) when reading/hearing Pound ...Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.com