Ryan Bundy, one of the sons of Nevada rancher Cliven
Bundy, speaks with a reporter at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on
Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2016, near Burns, Ore. With the takeover entering its
fourth day Wednesday, authorities had not removed the group of roughly
20 people from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in eastern Oregon's
high desert country: photo by Rick Bowmer/Associated Press, 6 January 2016
Oregon
militia leader Ryan Bundy compares government to slave master with
whip: As It Happens with Carol Off and Jeff Douglas, CBC Radio, 6
January 2016
An armed, self-styled militia group has been occupying a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon since Saturday night. Calling
themselves the Citizens for Constitutional Freedom, the group is led
by sons of Cliven Bundy, a Nevada rancher who has engaged previously in armed standoffs with the federal government. As It Happens guest-host Helen Mann speaks with one of the group's leaders, the eldest Bundy son, Ryan. Here is part of their interview:
The master, who is the federal government, has got a whip hanging over them. - Ryan Bundy
Helen Mann: How many of you are there right now?
Ryan Bundy: That's not information we let out.
Ryan Bundy talks on the phone at the Malheur
National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., Sunday, Jan. 3, 2016. Bundy
is one of the protesters occupying the refuge to object to a prison
sentence for local ranchers for burning federal land.: photo by Rebecca Boone/AP, 3 January 2016
HM: Are you concerned that the FBI will raid the refuge?
RB: You know, we'll deal with that as it comes, but I don't believe that's really going to happen, no.
HM: When you say you'll "deal with that," what would you do?
RB: We would posture defensively as need be.
HM: You'd be willing to open fire?
RB: Did you not hear me? I answered your question. I said we'd posture defensively as need be.
HM: Well, defence doesn't necessarily mean opening fire. It could just be standing your ground.
RB: That's right, it doesn't, so please don't construe that it does.
The federal government owns 47 percent of all land in the West: photo by Jarod Opperman for The New York Times, 6 January 2016
HM: That's why I was asking you, I didn't want to make an assumption.
RB: You know what? There's some things you just
shouldn't ask. It seems like the media, whether it be you, or the
mainstream especially, they're always trying to squeeze... always trying
to push things to some sort of violent action. It seems like you guys
can't wait to see some sort of showdown, you can't wait to see some
violence. I just don't understand that. Pay attention to the principles
that are being taught here, and what needs to happen, rather than trying
to push a fight.
HM: I'm not pushing anything, I just don't want to make any assumptions.
RB: Well then don't ask those questions, then.
HM: It's my job to ask questions, sir. How well armed are you guys?
RB: Again... [prolonged silence].
HM: Sorry, you cut out a little bit. Are you still there?
RB: No, I didn't cut out. If you want to continue
this conversation, then I would ask you don't ask those kinds of
questions. Let's stick to the principles and the reasons why we're here.
HM: Alright, what are your demands?
RB: [Laughs]. You don't just quit, do you?
A sign referencing Ammon Bundy and his
brother, who are the sons of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, hangs on a
tree in front of a home Tuesday, Jan. 5, 2016, in Burns, Ore. Ammon
Bundy, the leader of a small, armed group that is occupying a remote
national wildlife preserve in Oregon said Tuesday that they will go home
when a plan is in place to turn over management of federal lands to
locals.: photo by Rick Bowmer/AP, 5 January 2016
The interview continues. When asked why Bundy does not have the full support of Harney County locals, he replies:
RB: The reason these people are fearful to come out
and support [us] is because they're being treated as though they are
slaves. And the master, who is the federal government, has got a whip
hanging over them. If they even lift their head, or raise their eyes a
little bit, then they're snapped with another strike. And therefore they
fear. People of Harney County are coming here and expressing that to us
over and over, they express how their neighbours are in fear to do the
same.
HM: When do you think you'll leave the refuge?
RB: When we have accomplished the design. Thank you.
Props to the kid reporter interviewing Ryan Bundy for his school newspaper #Oregonstandoff: image via Ian Kullgren Verified account @IanKullgren, 7 January 2016
The Assembling and Provision of the Armies (and this time make sure you patriotic folks out there don't forget the French Vanilla Creamer!)
This guy is now at #Oregonstandoff #MalheurWildlifeRefuge: image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 10 January 2016
New group of heavily armed folks arrives at #MalheurWildlifeRefuge as #OregonMilitia insists they are "deescalating": image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 9 January 2016
New group of heavily armed folks arrives at #MalheurWildlifeRefuge as #OregonMilitia insists they are "deescalating": image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 9 January 2016
A man stands guard after members of several organizations arrived at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon on Saturday: photo by The Oregonian, 9 January 2016
The Patriots Network guys are out and about Burns. "Keeping things safe," says Brandon Rappola. #Oregonstandoff.: image via Amanda Peacher Verified account @amandapeacher, 10 January 2016
Harney County is nearly twice the size of Connecticut: photo by
Jarod Opperman for The New York Times, 6 January 2016
PETA has two deliveries in #Oregon: Chili for #Oregonstandoff witnesses & this firm message for the ranchers: image via PETA Verified account @peta, 7 January 2016
Not lacking in supplies at #Oregonstandoff one week in: image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 10 January 2016
Not lacking in supplies at #Oregonstandoff one week in: image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 10 January 2016
Not lacking in supplies at #Oregonstandoff one week in: image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 10 January 2016
Not lacking in supplies at #Oregonstandoff one week in: image via Sam Levin @SamTLevin, 10 January 2016
The OR militants have updated their wish list: image via JJ Macnab @jjmacNab, 9 January 2016
It's Chili Today! PETA delivering #vegan chili to law enforcement, Native Americans, & witnesses at Oregonstandoff: image via PETA Verified account @peta, 7 January 2016
#Oregon: PETA delivers vegan jerky to ranchers at Oregonstandoff urging them to raise crops, NOT cows: image via PETA Verified account @peta, 7 January 2016
What you need to know about the #Oregonstandoff this morning: image via The Oregonian @Oregonian, 10 January 2016
Feel like riding TriMet in your undies? Today's your chance during the No Pants MAX Ride.: image via The Oregonian @Oregonian, 10 January 2016
Duane Ehmer riding his horse, Hellboy, last week at the Malheur National
Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., where an armed group of
antigovernment activists had seized control: photo by Rob Kerr/Agence France-Presse, 10 January 2016
The entrance of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge on Monday. A group
calling itself Citizens for Constitutional Freedom has occupied the
refuge: photo by
Jarod Opperman for The New York Times, 3 January 2016
Such a quiet day in #Burns. Lots of folks at church or shoveling snow. No sign of movement w/#Oregonstandoff.: image via Amanda Peacher Verified account @amandapeacher, 10 January 2016
East-central Oregon near a national wildlife refuge that has been taken over by an armed group: photo by Jarod Opperman for The New York Times, 5 January 2016
5 comments:
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The American flag flying high over the fields of sedition. These are clearly tough, articulate, principled cowboys.
Terry,
Yes, minds like steel traps coated with molasses, every last one of 'em. What hope have PETA or the Paiutes or the Greater Sage-Grouse, staring in the asymmetric face of all this vivid and irrefutable testimony to the dramatic acceleration of the decline of the species?
Sorting the several brigades and platoons now on the scene in this semi-spontaneous Gathering of the Piltdown Survivals and their freehand-shopping-list-crafting Better Halves having become an insurmountable headache -- at one point I found myself having to split horsehairs in order to distinguish an Idaho Three Percenter from a Pacific Patriot Networker simply by the relative angles of skull tapering -- I've elected this time not to attempt to identify or categorize or in any way put, as it were, a fine point on anything, in the photo captions.
Because of course simply from looking at the iconic pinups you would stand at least a 50% chance of mistaking a Three Percenter for a mere Marine Corps combat veteran with a righteous Right to Rage.
For example it was evidently an insult to the Corps and all it stands for to be blamed for the antics of the Bundy Bunch Bodyguard, of whose awesome pulchritude far too much has been revealed here already (we have however managed to continue to resist posting the DUI photos of this slumbering giant in extreme blotto state, with that Bacardi bottle tenderly cradled in one intricately tatted arm).
Dude claimed to be... like, you know, whatever he thought the shivering gawkers and gapers with the media credentials and microphones wanted to hear.
But then, come to find out...
Really it's getting so hard any more to keep a bonafide popular hero's reputation upright, when the cardboard simulations keep toppling so easily and crashing down like so many giant golden Maos to cold hard permafrost to be scattered to the winds of celebrity eternity, to drift about forever along with all those trillions of other brief and quickly vanishing five-second bits... you know, Tay-Tay, El Chapo, all the top fashion-points winners at last night's Golden Globs, and so on.
But let me now turn this over to "sources":
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Veterans Today, January 8, 2016:
Yes, we already knew that the militia thugs who have seized the Malheur Wildlife Refuge are a bunch of wannabe tough guys who think they have valid reasons for being such monumental asshats, but it also turns out that some of them are downright liars who are pretending to be military veterans.
Brian Cavalier, who is the “personal bodyguard” to Ammon Bundy has told reporters that he served in both Iraq and Afghanistan as a member of the Marines. One tiny problem: the Marine Corps has absolutely no record of him. Why might that be? Because he never enlisted in any branch.
In addition to Cavalier, Blaine Cooper also claims to be a Marine veteran. The truth, however, is much different: Cooper was on the “Delayed Entry Program” and never even went to boot camp. Guess he realized he wasn’t cut out to be a real hero so now he has to carry a gun and pretend he’s a man.
Cavalier told reporters recently:
“I’m a retired United States Marine, I can rage.”
No, you’re a pretend Marine and all you can do is lie. When confronted by the media about his false claims of military service, including what the Marines said, Cavalier nervously replied:
“That’s unfortunate that someone would say that. I’m not commenting on anything. I told you what it is.”
Tom,
"Such a quiet day in Burns. Lots of folks at church or shoveling snow. . . ."
All the action out there on the Refuge -- those Bundys talking about slave masters whips, not letting much information out, "postur[ing] defensively as need be," not going home until "we have accomplished the design. Thank you."
Wonder who they'll be voting for come November . . .
Steve,
On that point... as the rains begin again... -- Can the hallucinations be starting up all over, or did I just see a news bit about Ryan Bundy saying that he thinks the ship of state will be a whole lot safer in the hands of... was it Carly Fiorina?
In Whose Hands?
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